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SEPTEMBER 1999

 

09/28/99     1000EST

  The Swiftech MC1000 PPGA Cooler review is now up so check it out.  In case you didn't already know the MC1000 is a TEC (Peltier) based cooling setup that will most likely help you take your current processor to never before imagined performance levels.

  Speaking of Switech's line of MC coolers, Overclocking Extreme also has a review up about the even more powerful (but much larger and more power hungry) MC2000 cooler.

09/25/99     0900EST

  Boy do I have some good news, for a limited time PCNut is once again offering Celeron 366 combos pre-tested at 550MHz.  These combos consist of the highest grade components insuring you the greatest performing and most reliable system possible.

  I just got word from Agg over at Overclockers Australia that he has finished his write-up on his water-cooled, peltier-assisted Celeron 366 at 643MHz.  The retention mechanism on the water block is very interesting since I find it similar to the one I have been using on my own water-cooled experiment recently, I guess great minds do think alike.  : )

  For those of you familiar with the lack of popularity concerning Maxtor's HDs in overclocked systems then you need to check out the article at FPS 3D.  Seems they have some things to say about Maxtor's latest ATA/66 drives.  I personally have been using a 13.6 gig DiamondMax Plus ATA/66 drive in one of my systems and I have been impressed.

  If your looking for another opinion and test data concerning the heatsinks I covered in my PPGA Cooler Shootout article then head on over to www.hardwarelab.de for some more information in both German and English.

09/24/99     0015EST

  Man am I in a bad mood, I was working on the MC1000 PPGA Cooler review when my dog decided to drop her toy on my systems UPS power button shutting down my system (I'm not kidding).  Needless to say it had been about an hour since I last saved any of the work and now it has to be redone.  Well I am giving up for the night and getting to bed since I'm on duty at the fire station tomorrow.

  I got an email back from the person who said their PIII no longer worked after rinsing it off under water as I had mentioned.  He blew some air under the processor core where there is a small gap between it and the PCB and sure enough he said there was still water in there.  After blowing all the water out and allowing the PIII to completely dry he is back in business again.  Told ya those processors are tough.

  Joe from Overclockers.com just sent me notice that Skip has completed a review of the STEP Thermodynamics PIII 500...

"Conclusions:

  Lifetime Warranty, CPU at cost, a very effective cooling system, and a company that is really concerned that you are happy with your investment makes a STEP Enhanced CPU a great investment in my opinion. If you want a very good performing CPU/Cooling System that you can just plug in and forget it. The STEP Enhanced CPU is the way to go. Many years of Engineering and design have made a system that works as advertised and STEP is so confident, they will stand behind it forever. STEP also sells 133Mhz and 150Mhz Memories with Lifetime Warranty's that you can purchase along with your CPU/Cooling System. They are also in the process of ramping up for some Overclocked K7 action!"

 

09/23/99     1430EST

  I already got email from somebody who washed his PIII off in the sink after "lapping" the processor surface and now his PIII doesn't work.  I do not and have not ever recommended "lapping" the surface of a PIII. I dont think it is necessary and the OLGA material that the "slug" is made from is not a metal such as on the Celerons.  If you do wash your processor off by dunking it in water as I do then you MUST make sure it is absolutely dry before you put power to that sucker.  The PIII has a very small space between the processor core and the PCB that would easily hold some moisture for a while unless perhaps some type of compressed air is used to remove it.  I always let my processors dry at least overnight and I use compressed air to blow most of the moisture from them immediately after rinsing them off.

  Keep in mind that although "lapping" has gotten to be a common procedure if done incorrectly it will damage your processor and that includes any technique you use to clean the dust from it once your done.  The processors will not be damaged when they are wet as long as they are not powered until they are absolutely and completely dry.

  The Tech Zone has an review article of yet another heatsink.  This one is interesting and I believe it definitely has some potential with some fine-tuning.  It is called the AMK SECC80 designed for SECC2 processors...

  "Size wise, the SECC80 is the same height and length as Global Win's VES20 or TennMax TF coolers. However the SECC80 is twice as deep. It's like taking 2 Global Win VES20 or TennMax TF and sticking them together!"

  Speaking of heatsink review articles Overclockin.com has one of their own with many different types of processor heatsinks covered.  Gary covers a lot of detailed information and it makes for a long read but as usual with his reviews he left no stone unturned...

  "Well, you've seen reviews of some of the heatsinks in this review before.  Well, now you can see how they directly compare to each other.  I've tested a couple of Socket 7 / 370 heatsinks (GlobalWin VCP08 and Socket Sinker from 3DCOOL), three PIII (SECC2) heatsinks (GlobalWin VGS08, TennMax P3TF, and Vantec P3D-5030), and four Slot1 Celeron heatsinks (Alpha P125S, Swiftech's MC2 and MC3, and TennMax Celeron TF).  Did any of the heatsinks win the coveted Overclockin Choice Award?" 

 

09/22/99     0230EST

  I got a chance to hit a movie tonight with the wife.  If you have not seen "The Sixth Sense" then you gotta check it out.

  I got the review of the 3DfxCool BigMoFo-REX PPGA Cooler up.  If you thought the GlobalWIN FDP-32 was a performer then you need to check this bad boy out.

09/21/99     1700EST

  Man has the weather been crazy lately or what?  First early last week there was Hurricane Floyd now yesterday my area of Florida gets hit with Tropical Storm Harvey.  I got called into the fire station automatically canceling my time off this week but fortunately it was nothing more then some heavy rain.

  Hopefully I should have a little review action up sometime late tonight.     I have to polish the final words on the BigMoFo-REX-FAN by 3DfxCool review and the Swiftech MC1000 article will now be in two parts.     Part 1 will be for PPGA applications and part 2 will be for PIII slot1.

  I get a lot of email asking me about sanding PPGA processor slugs.  It is not "science" and I'm not gonna go into details right now since there are a bunch of good "how-to" articles on other sites but I do have something to say.  I have seen a lot of information about how the processor has to be protected from the dust and moisture when you flatten the slug.  Listen people, that damn processor is a lot tougher then you think so dont be afraid to get a little sloppy.  I use a little soapy water and silicon carbide sandpaper to do the sanding then I just rinse the processor off under water when I'm done allowing it to completely dry before I use it...

Dont worry, it wont melt!

  It will work just fine.

09/17/99     2130EST

  I guess Florida lucked out with Hurricane Floyd but unfortunately states to the North were not so lucky.  Actually since Floyd kinda grazed the coast for a few hours before making landfall he blew off a lot of energy first thank goodness.     Sorry about my incorrect directions in my previous news update (thanks DJ for the correction), I typed that "Floyd was WSW of Florida" at the time and I should of typed "ESE of Florida", thats why I always stay within sight of land when I go boating.  For those of you in Texas who evacuated your homes needlessly based on my incorrect location of Floyd I apologize.   : )

  I would also like to thank those of you who offered my family a safe place to stay if incase my area had to evacuate and I was stuck at work.  Seems like OCers do have big hearts.

  I did a little preliminary testing of the Swiftech MC1000 PPGA cooler and I am definitely pleased with it's abilities.  Stay tuned for the review article which I should have completed by Tuesday evening at the latest.

  SysOp Solutions has a picture of LeadTek's WinFast GForce 256 video card if your interested.  There is also a review of the Vantec P3-D5030 cooler over there so check that out too.

  Overclockers Australia did a little review action on the REALmagic Hollywood Plus DVD Decoder Card that you can read here.     Not really OC info but interesting just the same.

  I got an email from my good buddy Tillman of The Heatsink Guide about the PolarLogic heatsinks I talked about a few days ago.  Seems Tillman had the opportunity to test a few samples and he said they weren't worth mentioning, nuff said.     Thats a shame cause they sure do look nice.

  I heard from AbsolutePC the other day and they have an article I found interesting...

  "I just wrote up an article, deciding that I needed to get something up while we are in the process of a total reworking of the internal coding of our site.  I take a look at big business, the reasons small competitors can't cope and Linux and Be from a bit of a gaming perspective."

Oh ya and HardOCP did a write-up on the ALPHA P3125S cooler.  Since I may never get time to finish my review you might want to check out what Kyle had to say.

09/13/99     1630EST

  Things may get a little crazy for me the next few days.  As I write this Hurricane Floyd lies a couple of hundred miles to the WSW of Florida packing sustained winds of 155MPH and getting stronger by the hour.  It was 1992 when Hurricane Andrew struck South Florida taking 62 lives with him and Floyd is already larger and more powerful.  Expected landfall is forecast around early Wednesday morning and I'll be on duty at the fire station.  It is unlikely that the community I live in on the West Coast of Florida will suffer much damage but I suspect my department will be sending men and equipment to the East Coast as soon as the high winds subside.  That means either I will be spending a couple of weeks away from home to help support the emergency services of the hardest hit communities or I'll be working a lot of overtime at my home fire station to fill in for manpower.  There is a chance that Floyd may turn North but somebody somewhere is gonna get it bad.  Needless to say news updates here on the site may be lacking for at least a few days.

  For the latest satellite imagery loop of Hurricane Floyd check here.

  When things do get back to normal for me I have the Swiftech MC1000 cooler in my possession and a modified GlobalWIN FDP-32 called the BigMoFo-REX-FAN by 3dfxCool with a big 80mm fan that puts out 40cfm of air begging for some review action.

09/09/99     0030EST

  I just got notice that SysOp Solutions has added another installment to there liquid cooling series.  Your gonna freak at the high quality of this installation and engineering, very nice stuff so go check out the Liquid Cooling Your CPU (part II) article.

www.sysopsolutions.com

09/08/99     2145EST

  As a little "addendum" to my PPGA Cooler Shootout article I've played around with the GlobalWIN FDP-32 a bit to see if there was an easy alternative to mounting the fan that would allow the assembly to better fit onto some mobos (SOYO) without blocking DIMM slots when a slotket card is used.  It is a very simple modification requiring only two 1 1/4" sheet metal screws.  The performance difference after the mod is about 1c warmer (not a big deal) and now all the DIMM slots are available on the test rig's Soyo 6BA+III...

The standard FDP-32 setup. After the fan re-mount.
The fan hangs over a bit. A different view.
Only two sheet metal screws. Need a closer look?
The black wire is a remote temperature sensor.

  It only takes a couple of minutes to remount the fan so it is a really easy modification.  If you are concerned about losing those DIMM slots then you should definitely check out the possibility of performing the same procedure on your FDP-32.  The FDP-32 is a very good PPGA heatsink and the price has been getting lower almost every day as competition heats up a little between vendors.

09/08/99     0100EST

  I've been busy working my butt off presenting original material for you folks to enjoy so now I'm gonna take a break and point you to some other sites with interesting news and information...

  As usual HardOCP is tuning out the tid-bits.  Looks like some interesting preliminary info on a sweet looking heatsink design.  Its from the folks who designed the "Snow Leopard" even though I never saw that one again after the intro.    Maybe they just "look good".

ArctiCoolers

  Also check out HardOCP for a little review action concerning the ever popular "FragTape", Kyle tells it like it is so dont expect him to flatter his own baby if it doesn't deserve it.  There is also some preliminary info regarding Abit's BE6-II.

  I got an interesting cache cooling setup in the mail from Xample Technologies called the "Xtreme Heat Sink".  It's a setup that includes a cache cooler plate and rear heatsink for the PII.  It is designed to be used along with a standard PII heatsink cooler so take a look at the included parts...

Xtreme Heatsink PII cache cooler

  Unfortunately I dont have an operational PII around the computer lab right now but lucky for us Skip over at Overclockers.com has just put up a review on the Extreme Heatsink and it looks like it may have some performance benefits.

09/07/99     1530EST

  The PPGA Cooler Shootout article is up so check that out if your in the market for some PPGA cooling action.  I even recorded test data with the ALPHA PFH6035 both "blowing" and "sucking".

  Agg over at Overclockers Australia has a good article on Slug Sanding How-To, you need to check it out if your thinking about such a procedure for your own processor.    There is also some info regarding some peltier experiments on the front page.

09/05/99     2330EST

  For those of you eager to jump into the Athlon game then Humphrey from PCNut has some interesting (not so good) news to share...

  "Just in case any of your readers ask you about K7 motherboard, steer them clearly from MSI MS-6167, at least for now!  I was crazy enough to ordered in a K7-500 processor and that board in on Friday, wanting to run some benchmarks for myself and few potential university customers.  What a mistake!"

  Humphrey goes on to talk about mysterious reboots, black screens, and a list of other problems with no success at all after lots of effort.     Oh well, whats that they always say about buying the first model year of a new car?   Wait till they get all the "bugs" worked out.

  BXBoards has been busy reviewing i810 boards, so far they have the AOpen MX3W and the Gigabyte GA-6WMM7 done.

  I spent today having a little fun that the site has kept me away from lately.  One of my hobbies is R/C (remote control) airplanes so I took off from the house early this morning packing one of my older (the first I actually built myself several years ago) airplanes and headed for the club's flying field...

72" wingspan "Tiger 60"

All ages like to fly.

  Lots of Sunday fun when I get to go flying.     Hopefully in the near future I'll get the chance to finish the 96" span Cap 232 model I started at the beginning of the year that I have not had the time to work on in six months.  I just wanted to include this personal side note about my "other" hobby, sorry if I bored you.

09/05/99     0100EST

  I would like to take this opportunity to welcome UnlimitedHardware.com's newest sponsor Outside Loop Computers.  This addition to the sponsorship team now rounds out the best and most complete hardware vendors available.  This site is very fortunate to have such an elite backbone of support which will result in this site becoming bigger and better providing more news and information including even more review articles on the latest and hottest hardware.  Folks let me tell you something, I know how difficult it can be when your searching on-line for reliable vendors to make your next hardware purchase from.  You always have that uneasy feeling when dealing for the first time with somebody wondering about the reliability and honesty of that vendor.     Well the sponsors I accept for this site are the best.  They are the most knowledgeable and reliable not to mention they stock all the latest popular OC high performance hardware.  Most of all they practice their trade with the highest level of integrity and thats why you see their banners and buttons here on UnlimitedHardware.com.  I get many offers for advertising but I'm picky as hell and I dont accept just anybody, these are the folks I recommend to my own family and friends and you have no need to look any further for your hardware needs.

  One quick note here about Outside Loop Computers is that they have recently received a batch of new PPGA 300s that are doing 558MHz and some even as high as 580MHz!  To think you thought the 300a was dead.  If you think you might be interested then there may be some more information concerning availability of this new batch of processors in the next day or two at their site.

Courtesy of Outside Loop Computers.

Celeron 300 PPGA @ 580MHz!

  Just in case you have not noticed I've added two new pages of some interest concerning ALPHA heatsinks.     First I put together a little simple diagram to help illustrate the assembly of the ALPHA PFH6035 socket7 / 370 (PPGA) heatsink since it seems some folks have a hard time deciding where those little aluminum stand-offs go.     The second new page is a pictorial stepping you through the assembly of the ALPHA P3125S, ALPHA's newest heatsink which is for SECC2 processors.  The pictures for the P3125S are very good and offer those who have not yet seen this work of art a good look.

  While I was working at the fire department (my full-time job) yesterday I received the new GlobalWIN FEP-32 heatsink in the mail courtesy of PLYCON Computers.     This is the last addition I had been waiting on to finish the "PPGA Cooling Shootout" article.  I went ahead today and recollected temperature and performance data on all the heatsinks included in the article to make sure I had the most accurate information possible.  Look for the finished article tomorrow night at the latest.

  One more addition to heatsink news here...

  Not being one to leave "well enough" alone I did a little experimenting with Vantec's newest heatsink for the P3 called the P3-5030.  It is a pretty good P3 cooler in it's stock form with a good size heatsink and nice high performance Y.S. Tech 50mm fans but there is room for improvement as seen here...

Courtesy of www.hardocp.com.

60mm fan modification

The stock P3-5035

A little 60mm fan mod action

Photo of stock P3-5035 courtesy of HardOCP

  I took off the stock fan assembly and added two 60mm fans for a considerable improvement in performance.  The fans were easily attached with nylon zip-ties and I recorded the following data on a P3 at 600MHz...

  Stock Vantec P3-5035    Modified P3-5035 with 60mm fans 
51.7c / 125f 35.0c / 95f

  Special thanks to 2CoolTEK for supplying the Vantec P3-5035 heatsink.

 

 

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